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		<title>By: HP</title>
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		<description>I don&#039;t recall agreeing to it. But more facts are in now. I am glad the things have gone the way they have. We need to bring the army&#039;s power down and this was one good opportunity to do that. there is still a lot more to be done. keep  the pressure  relentless and the army can&#039;t withstand that for long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t recall agreeing to it. But more facts are in now. I am glad the things have gone the way they have. We need to bring the army&#8217;s power down and this was one good opportunity to do that. there is still a lot more to be done. keep  the pressure  relentless and the army can&#8217;t withstand that for long.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a great post.</description>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few days ago u seemed to agree with the gist of this article. Plz read line to line before you make more comments.</description>
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		<title>By: HP</title>
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		<description>I am afraid your entire thesis is completely out of sync with the reality. We can not ignore the regressive and anti-democratic role the Pak army is playing in the area. It does not appear that the pak army was involved in the Mumbai carnage but the groups they control have been used by some other agencies.

Hamid Gul is a heinous character and no soft  corner should be given to him.

I am disappointed. This is a totally Pro-Army analysis and entire incorrect.</description>
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<p>Hamid Gul is a heinous character and no soft  corner should be given to him.</p>
<p>I am disappointed. This is a totally Pro-Army analysis and entire incorrect.</p>
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		<title>By: Agha</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you have gone very pessimistic in your old age my dear sir.lets hope that what you fear does not happen .</description>
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		<title>By: Agha</title>
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		<description>Mumbai Terror Attack : The Anglo-American-Mossad-RSS Nexus [interesting expose]

 
This is an interesting piece though I have no idea of how credible the
writer is.


Mumbai Terror Attack: Further Evidence Of The
Anglo-American-Mossad-RSS Nexus

By Amaresh Misra

03 December, 2008
Countercurrents.org

Now who has the last laugh? That is the question; I only have pity for
those who cannot see reality and who were so glib to buy into what the
media and political troubleshooters were saying about the Mumbai
terrorist attacks.

Consider this:

As a BBC report notes, at least some of the Mumbai attackers were not
Indian and certainly not Muslim.Pappu Mishra, a cafe proprietor at the
gothic Victorian Chattrapati Shivaji Terminus railway station,
described &quot;two sprightly young men dressed in black&quot; with AK47s who
were &quot;foreign looking, fair skinned.&quot;Gaffar Abdul Amir, an Iraqi
tourist from Baghdad, saw at least two men who started the firing
outside the Leopold Cafe. &quot;They did not look Indian, they looked
foreign. One of them, I thought, had blonde hair. The other had a
punkish hairstyle. They were neatly dressed,&quot; Amir told the BBC.

According to Andrew G. Marshall, the ISI &quot;has long been referred to as
Pakistan&#039;s &#039;secret government&#039; or &#039;shadow state.&#039; It&#039;s long-standing
ties and reliance upon American and British intelligence have not let
up, therefore actions taken by the ISI should be viewed in the context
of being a Central Asian outpost of Anglo-American covert intelligence
operations.&quot;The presence of &quot;foreign looking, fair skinned&quot; commandos
who calmly gunned down dozens of people after drinking a few beers
indicates that the Mumbai attacks were likely the work of the
Anglo-American covert intelligence operatives, not indigenous Indian
Muslims or for that matter Arab al-Qaeda terrorists. The attacks
prepare the ground for the break-up of Pakistan and the furtherance of
destabilizing terrorism in the Middle East and Asia. The Mumbai
attacks had little to do with India or the relationship between Muslim
Pakistanis and Hindu Indians.&quot;Pakistan&#039;s position as a strategic focal
point cannot be underestimated. It borders India, Afghanistan, China
and Iran,&quot; concludes Marshall. &quot;Destabilizing and ultimately breaking
Pakistan up into several countries or regions will naturally spread
chaos and destabilization into neighboring countries. This is also
true of Iraq on the other side of Iran, as the Anglo-American have
undertaken, primarily through Iraq, a strategy of balkanizing the
entire Middle East in a new imperial project.&quot; (See Marshall&#039;s Divide
and Conquer: The Anglo-American Imperial Project.)

Now I ask specifically: WHO HAS EGG ON THE FACE? MY DETRACTORS OR ME?

Andrew Marshall is a respected author; he is clearly saying here that
terrorists looked like Anglo-American covert operatives and that the
entire Mumbai operation was an attempt by Anglo-American forces to
destabilize India and push it further into the Israel-US orbit.
Marshall also says that Americans are keen to dismember Pakistan--it
is clear that in this project, America needs India as a firm ally--it
cannot afford Indo-Pak friendship at least on a long-term basis. The
Mumbai attack thus was multi-layered--and one of the reasons could be
to warn India that the Anglo-American elite has the power to penetrate
India, with the help of its own people. Clearly, the attackers would
not have come from the sea route without some kind of a connivance of
Gujarat and Maharashtra Governments with the terrorists, and the
connivance of RSS type Hindutva elements as I will prove later in the
piece.

This afore-mentioned report appeared on the BBC, a news agency which
pro-west, Muslim-haters and all NRIs love to see. NOW I ASK THESE
PEOPLE: why are you adopting double standards? Now a BBC report is
incovenient because it militates against your idea of what happened in
Mumbai?

Even the Indian Government is aware of this reality. That is why it is
not issuing statements in a hurry and that is why the kind of
Islamo-phobia seen earlier after Bomb Blasts is not being seen now.

A second report is more shocking--some news channels captured it but
then it went off air:

One Police officer who encountered the gunmen as they entered the
Jewish Center (Nariman House) said the attackers were white. &quot;I went
into the building late last night&quot; he said. &quot;I got a shock because
they were white. I was expecting them to look like us. They fired
three shots. I fired 10 back&quot;.

The Nariman House affair brings the Mossad angle to the fore. Two of
the `hostages&#039; killed in the Narimam House were identified as Rabbi
Gabreil Holtzberg and his wife Rivka. They ran the center as
spokespersons of the Chabad Lubavitch movement.

Now the Chabad movement is one of the many sects within Israel and
Judaism. But of late it has come under the Zionist influence. Now what
is Zionism? A brief digression would suffice: Zionism is the political
ideology of racist Jews, just like Hindutva is the political ideology
of a section of `race conscious&#039; Hindus. Just as a majority of
Sanatani Hindus have opposed Hindutva, a majority of Jews oppose
Zionism and its fascist-anti-religious tone.

In opposition to the teachings of Judaism, the orthodox Jew religion,
Zionists want to dominate the world; they see the `Jewish race&#039; as the
most important, almost divine, race in the world. Zionists are opposed
to democracy and even the concept of naitonhood. Zionists believe in
creating murder and mayhem as a matter of policy.

In America, Zionists have entered into an alliance with the American
elites--the White-Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP) forces--which rule
America. The reasons for this alliance lie in the way the Zionist
agenda matches with that of the American corporate and WASP elite and
is beyind the scope of this article.

People who do not understand Zionism will never be able to understand
what happened in Mumbai.

Back to members of the Chabad-Lubavitch movement killed at Nariman
House--people have asked how come the Rabbi and his wife were killed
if Mossad is involved in the Mumbai terror attack?

The answer to this is being forwarded by Jewish anti-Zionist websites.
They also detail the sectarian history of the Chabad-Lubavitch movement:

The attack on Mumbai spotlights the ultra-orthodox (haredi)
Chabad-Lubavitch community and its international outreach network.
When Chabad outreach (keruv) started in the 1950s, it seemed rather
intellectually dishonest because the organization used nostalgia for a
never-existent Jewish past as a hook to enmesh secular or secularized
Jews in ultra-orthodox (haredi) practice as hozrim bitshuvah
(returnees, sometimes improperly called baalei tshuvah), but on the
whole the activity was mostly harmless in contrast with current Chabad
activities, which long ago crossed the border into dangerous territory.

As the Lubavitcher organization has become larger and wealthier --
partially because mobilization for keruv has brought large
contributions, members have shown a propensity for corruption.

Yet, the Lubavitchers have worked closely with Jewish racists like
Lawrence Summers and Alan Dershowitz in the ongoing attempt to control
discourse on American campuses. The wealthy Russian Lubavitcher hozer
bitshuvah Lev Leviev openly supports Zionist terrorism and settlement
building in the Palestinan occupied territories. Possibly because of
Leviev Chabad-Lubavitch has openly become involved in Putin&#039;s
struggles with Russian Jewish oligarchs.

Still, there is an even more sinister aspect to the Lubavitcher
organization.

Because Lubavitcher outreach offices are located in some of the most
important political, corporate and university centers throughout the
world, the Lubavitchers have put together a network that is
incomparable for corporate and international espionage as well as for
the secret exchange of information. Because Chabad Houses could
potentially act as safe houses, where there would be no record of a
person&#039;s stay.

Most people do not take the Lubavitchers seriously, but I have visited
Chabad houses and encountered senior Israeli government or military
officials (and probably intelligence agents). One can easily imagine
that Neocon intelligentsia trying to develop a relationship with
Hindutva (?????????) intelligentsia or politicians might have used the
Chabad Nariman House as a meeting place.

Here a Jew is saying that he has visited Chabad houses and that he has
seen covert operations going on and the involvement of senior
Government and military officials of Israel. This Jew writer is also
talking openly about a Neo-Con-Chabad-Hindutva tie-up!

The Jew writer mentions the Mossad involvement in Chabad Houses:

Because the Lubavitchers provide an unconditional welcome to all Jews
in the hope of bringing them closer to the Lubavitcher way of life,
the Lubavitchers have been open to potential subversion by Israeli
intelligence organizations. Mossad and Shin Bet found it quite easy to
penetrate the haredi community during the Yossele Affair. Jewish
politics has often involved infiltration and subversion of one
political group by another. The David Project Israel Advocacy
organization has used its educational programs as a means to
infiltrate more mainstream Jewish communal organizations with radical
Islamophobes and Jabotinskian Zionists.

To Zionize haredi groups that practice outreach, the Israeli
government need only give encouragement to Zionistically indoctrinated
Hebrew-speaking young people to participate in outreach programs, and
in a few years the targeted haredi community is thoroughly enmeshed in
Zionist thinking while Israeli intelligence organizations have a new
crop of saya`nim in place ready to serve in Zionist covert operations.

What is a sayanim? Go to the link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayanim and it states that &quot;Sayanim
(Hebrew: &quot;helpers&quot;) is a term used to describe Jews living outside
Israel who volunteer to provide assistance to the Mossad.[1] This
assistance includes facilitating medical care, money, logistics, and
even overt intelligence gathering, yet sayanim are only paid for their
expenses. No official number is known, but estimates put the number of
sayanim in the thousands. The existence of this large body of
volunteers is one reason why the Mossad operates with fewer case
officers than fellow intelligence agencies&quot;

Now back to the link

http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2008/12/

chabad-lubavitch-dangerous-game.html

from which I was quoting the Jewish writer originally. He says that
the Lubavitcher shluchim (outreach emissaries) Gavriel Noach and Rivka
Holtzberg fit the `sayanim&#039; profile to a &quot;T&quot; -- especially Rivkah.

So the two people killed in Nariman House fit the Sayanim, that is
Jews outside Israel who volunteer to provide assistance to Mossad,
profile!

NOW WHAT OTHER PROOF DO YOU WANT?

The Jewish writer of the afore-mentioned link himself asks the
question: WOULD MOSSAD HAVE KILLED THE RABBI AND HIS WIFE IN NARIMAN
HOUSE?
AND HE PROVIDES THE ANSWER:

Zionists have always used dead Jews to build sympathy for Zionist
goals and as cover for Zionist crimes against humanity.

Ben-Gurion explicitly stated that he would sacrifice German Jewish
children for the sake of Zionism while the Zionist leadership probably
learned the benefit of sacrificing Zionist operatives from the 1946
Kielce Pogrom. In this incident (Jewish) Soviet and Zionist agents
probably worked together to make sure that surviving Polish Jews chose
emigration to Palestine over a return to Poland.

Because the Kielce Zionist recruiters were killed during the pogrom,
the events leading up to the pogrom was rendered forever unobtainable.

Some reports of the Mumbai attack indicate that the Holtzbergs rented
space to the attack planners over the past few months and thereby
helped make the operation far more effective.

An opportunity to interrogate the Holtzbergs would have helped
investigators immensely.

AGAIN WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?

Another piece of massive evidence: In a telephone interview with CBC
News from outside the Center (Nariman House), freelance journalists
Arun Asthana said that there are reports that some of the militants
had stayed at a guest house there (Nariman House) for upto 15 days
before the attack. &quot;They had a huge mass of ammunition, arms and food
there&quot;, Asthana said.

Now other reports have also confirmed that a huge mass of food was
ordered by the residents of the Nariman House. This food was enough
for 30-40 people for several days. Why was this amount of food
ordered? Also why was Nariman House not assaulted till the very last?
A Gujarati Hindu resident of Mumbai came onto TV on CNN-IBN to say at
around 3.30 AM or so, that for two months suspicious activities wree
going in Nariman House. A lot of foreigners were seen coming in and
going out. This matter was reported to the Police. But no one took action.

The CNN-IBN did not repeat the news; then it was only when the common
people of Mumbai threatened to storm the Nariman House the NSG
commandos were moved in--why this delay in assaulting Nariman House
when only two terrorists were holed in there?

This is sheer official complicity and nothing else--AN INVESTIGATION
INTO THE WHOLE NARIMAN HOUSE AFFAIR IS A MUST.

Then it was reported that &quot; somehow surprising to learn that the
terrorists in Cama hospital in Mumbai were fluently speaking Marathi.
The terrorists who are said to have fired in Cama hospital talked to
an employee clad in civil dress in Marathi, reports a Marathi daily
&#039;Maharashtra Times&#039;.

The newspaper said the terrorists who targeted ATS chief Hemant
Karkare, police commissioner Ashok Kamte and encounter specialist
Vijay Salaskar were speaking Marathi fluently.

The newspaper claims the terrorists having fired at two watchmen in
uniform asked the other beside them on gunpoint in Marathi, &#039;You are
here an employee?&#039; The employee caught the legs of the terrorist and
said, &#039;I am not working here. My wife has suffered from heart attack
and I have come here to admit her.&#039; The terrorist asked him again in
Marathi, &#039;You are speaking true or false?&#039; The employee answered, &#039;No,
by God I am speaking true.&#039;
On this the terrorist let him go.

NOW WHAT DO WE MAKE OF THAT? Another report says that traditional Jews
of Mumbai who have migrated to Israel speak fluent Marathi and are
known to have been recruited by Mossad!

The death of Hemant Karkare remains a mystery. All official versions
are contradictory: some say he was killed near CST, some that he died
near Cama hospital, some near Metro cinema, and some that he was
killed while in a Police jeep. Also, where did the bullet hit him?
Some say on the neck and some near the heart. Karkare was shown on TV
wearing a bullet proof vest--he could not have been shot in neck in
that case, unless there was a sniper waiting for him.

Also if he was shot near heart, then when did he take out his vest? No
one has even bothered to answer this question. Also, another facet is
coming to light: that Karkare was killed near Cama--but Kaamte and
Salaskar in the Metro shootout!

Intelligent people--what do you have to say now? It is becoming
obvious that...

1. Several terrorists might have been white

2. Were they International mercanaries? If yes, then from which
country? Who collected them? It is well known that Mossad and CIA have
several mercenary organizations, including so-called Jihadi ones on
their list. They create Jihad and manipulate Muslims disaffected by
the Islamophobia in the world. Some of them might have been used in
the Mumbai attack. But why were they carrying American, British,
Mauritian and Malaysian passports?

3. Who were the Marathi speaking Karkare killers? The lane next to the
Cama Hospital is a deserted one--it goes straight to the backyard of
the Mumbai CID Headquarters. Anonymous sources in the Police have
revealed that Karkare was taken there, by a joint team of
anti-Karkare, pro-Hindutva Mumbai Police officers, and Chota Rajan
men. Now Karkare was opposed to Chota Rajan. Salaskar was anti-Pradeep
Sharma, another Mumbai senior Police officer now in jail, for working
as Rajan&#039;s shooter. So the Marathi speaking terrorists could either
have been Jews with some connection to Mumbai--or hired killers of the
Hindutva brigade or men of Chota Rajan.

4. It seems that several things went on simultaneously--the Mahrashtra
Chief Minister Vilas Rao Deshmukh was in Kerala when the Mumbai attack
began at 9.30 PM on 26th November. Then by 11PM Deshmukh had informed
the Home Minister Shivraj Patil--the latter has started proceedings to
send the NSG Commandos. So Deshmukh knew about what was happening by
11PM--then why was there no Mumbai Police on various locations between
9.30 and 1am, the time when Karkare arrived? The Mumbai ATS is a
separate organization. it does not lead the Mumbai Police. So the
40,000 strong Mumbai Police was absent from the scene of action
between 11pm to 1am and then Karkare arrived and he was killed along
with his men!

Isn&#039;t there something fishy here? Obviously the Mumbai Police was kept
deliberately away between 11pm and 1am, the time period when
terrorists were killing people merrily. Then Karkare must have been
told--and he went there expecting Mumbai police personals to be
there--but there were none or only a few! And he was killed!

Amaresh Misra is a freelance writer, historian and poet. He is the
author of Mangal Pandey: The True Story of an Indian Revolutionary;
Lucknow: Fire of Grace: The Story of Its Renaissance, Revolution and
the Aftermath, and more recently War of Civilizations: The Road to
Delhi and The Long Revolution. He can be contacted on
misra.amaresh@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mumbai Terror Attack : The Anglo-American-Mossad-RSS Nexus [interesting expose]</p>
<p>This is an interesting piece though I have no idea of how credible the<br />
writer is.</p>
<p>Mumbai Terror Attack: Further Evidence Of The<br />
Anglo-American-Mossad-RSS Nexus</p>
<p>By Amaresh Misra</p>
<p>03 December, 2008<br />
Countercurrents.org</p>
<p>Now who has the last laugh? That is the question; I only have pity for<br />
those who cannot see reality and who were so glib to buy into what the<br />
media and political troubleshooters were saying about the Mumbai<br />
terrorist attacks.</p>
<p>Consider this:</p>
<p>As a BBC report notes, at least some of the Mumbai attackers were not<br />
Indian and certainly not Muslim.Pappu Mishra, a cafe proprietor at the<br />
gothic Victorian Chattrapati Shivaji Terminus railway station,<br />
described &#8220;two sprightly young men dressed in black&#8221; with AK47s who<br />
were &#8220;foreign looking, fair skinned.&#8221;Gaffar Abdul Amir, an Iraqi<br />
tourist from Baghdad, saw at least two men who started the firing<br />
outside the Leopold Cafe. &#8220;They did not look Indian, they looked<br />
foreign. One of them, I thought, had blonde hair. The other had a<br />
punkish hairstyle. They were neatly dressed,&#8221; Amir told the BBC.</p>
<p>According to Andrew G. Marshall, the ISI &#8220;has long been referred to as<br />
Pakistan&#8217;s &#8217;secret government&#8217; or &#8217;shadow state.&#8217; It&#8217;s long-standing<br />
ties and reliance upon American and British intelligence have not let<br />
up, therefore actions taken by the ISI should be viewed in the context<br />
of being a Central Asian outpost of Anglo-American covert intelligence<br />
operations.&#8221;The presence of &#8220;foreign looking, fair skinned&#8221; commandos<br />
who calmly gunned down dozens of people after drinking a few beers<br />
indicates that the Mumbai attacks were likely the work of the<br />
Anglo-American covert intelligence operatives, not indigenous Indian<br />
Muslims or for that matter Arab al-Qaeda terrorists. The attacks<br />
prepare the ground for the break-up of Pakistan and the furtherance of<br />
destabilizing terrorism in the Middle East and Asia. The Mumbai<br />
attacks had little to do with India or the relationship between Muslim<br />
Pakistanis and Hindu Indians.&#8221;Pakistan&#8217;s position as a strategic focal<br />
point cannot be underestimated. It borders India, Afghanistan, China<br />
and Iran,&#8221; concludes Marshall. &#8220;Destabilizing and ultimately breaking<br />
Pakistan up into several countries or regions will naturally spread<br />
chaos and destabilization into neighboring countries. This is also<br />
true of Iraq on the other side of Iran, as the Anglo-American have<br />
undertaken, primarily through Iraq, a strategy of balkanizing the<br />
entire Middle East in a new imperial project.&#8221; (See Marshall&#8217;s Divide<br />
and Conquer: The Anglo-American Imperial Project.)</p>
<p>Now I ask specifically: WHO HAS EGG ON THE FACE? MY DETRACTORS OR ME?</p>
<p>Andrew Marshall is a respected author; he is clearly saying here that<br />
terrorists looked like Anglo-American covert operatives and that the<br />
entire Mumbai operation was an attempt by Anglo-American forces to<br />
destabilize India and push it further into the Israel-US orbit.<br />
Marshall also says that Americans are keen to dismember Pakistan&#8211;it<br />
is clear that in this project, America needs India as a firm ally&#8211;it<br />
cannot afford Indo-Pak friendship at least on a long-term basis. The<br />
Mumbai attack thus was multi-layered&#8211;and one of the reasons could be<br />
to warn India that the Anglo-American elite has the power to penetrate<br />
India, with the help of its own people. Clearly, the attackers would<br />
not have come from the sea route without some kind of a connivance of<br />
Gujarat and Maharashtra Governments with the terrorists, and the<br />
connivance of RSS type Hindutva elements as I will prove later in the<br />
piece.</p>
<p>This afore-mentioned report appeared on the BBC, a news agency which<br />
pro-west, Muslim-haters and all NRIs love to see. NOW I ASK THESE<br />
PEOPLE: why are you adopting double standards? Now a BBC report is<br />
incovenient because it militates against your idea of what happened in<br />
Mumbai?</p>
<p>Even the Indian Government is aware of this reality. That is why it is<br />
not issuing statements in a hurry and that is why the kind of<br />
Islamo-phobia seen earlier after Bomb Blasts is not being seen now.</p>
<p>A second report is more shocking&#8211;some news channels captured it but<br />
then it went off air:</p>
<p>One Police officer who encountered the gunmen as they entered the<br />
Jewish Center (Nariman House) said the attackers were white. &#8220;I went<br />
into the building late last night&#8221; he said. &#8220;I got a shock because<br />
they were white. I was expecting them to look like us. They fired<br />
three shots. I fired 10 back&#8221;.</p>
<p>The Nariman House affair brings the Mossad angle to the fore. Two of<br />
the `hostages&#8217; killed in the Narimam House were identified as Rabbi<br />
Gabreil Holtzberg and his wife Rivka. They ran the center as<br />
spokespersons of the Chabad Lubavitch movement.</p>
<p>Now the Chabad movement is one of the many sects within Israel and<br />
Judaism. But of late it has come under the Zionist influence. Now what<br />
is Zionism? A brief digression would suffice: Zionism is the political<br />
ideology of racist Jews, just like Hindutva is the political ideology<br />
of a section of `race conscious&#8217; Hindus. Just as a majority of<br />
Sanatani Hindus have opposed Hindutva, a majority of Jews oppose<br />
Zionism and its fascist-anti-religious tone.</p>
<p>In opposition to the teachings of Judaism, the orthodox Jew religion,<br />
Zionists want to dominate the world; they see the `Jewish race&#8217; as the<br />
most important, almost divine, race in the world. Zionists are opposed<br />
to democracy and even the concept of naitonhood. Zionists believe in<br />
creating murder and mayhem as a matter of policy.</p>
<p>In America, Zionists have entered into an alliance with the American<br />
elites&#8211;the White-Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP) forces&#8211;which rule<br />
America. The reasons for this alliance lie in the way the Zionist<br />
agenda matches with that of the American corporate and WASP elite and<br />
is beyind the scope of this article.</p>
<p>People who do not understand Zionism will never be able to understand<br />
what happened in Mumbai.</p>
<p>Back to members of the Chabad-Lubavitch movement killed at Nariman<br />
House&#8211;people have asked how come the Rabbi and his wife were killed<br />
if Mossad is involved in the Mumbai terror attack?</p>
<p>The answer to this is being forwarded by Jewish anti-Zionist websites.<br />
They also detail the sectarian history of the Chabad-Lubavitch movement:</p>
<p>The attack on Mumbai spotlights the ultra-orthodox (haredi)<br />
Chabad-Lubavitch community and its international outreach network.<br />
When Chabad outreach (keruv) started in the 1950s, it seemed rather<br />
intellectually dishonest because the organization used nostalgia for a<br />
never-existent Jewish past as a hook to enmesh secular or secularized<br />
Jews in ultra-orthodox (haredi) practice as hozrim bitshuvah<br />
(returnees, sometimes improperly called baalei tshuvah), but on the<br />
whole the activity was mostly harmless in contrast with current Chabad<br />
activities, which long ago crossed the border into dangerous territory.</p>
<p>As the Lubavitcher organization has become larger and wealthier &#8211;<br />
partially because mobilization for keruv has brought large<br />
contributions, members have shown a propensity for corruption.</p>
<p>Yet, the Lubavitchers have worked closely with Jewish racists like<br />
Lawrence Summers and Alan Dershowitz in the ongoing attempt to control<br />
discourse on American campuses. The wealthy Russian Lubavitcher hozer<br />
bitshuvah Lev Leviev openly supports Zionist terrorism and settlement<br />
building in the Palestinan occupied territories. Possibly because of<br />
Leviev Chabad-Lubavitch has openly become involved in Putin&#8217;s<br />
struggles with Russian Jewish oligarchs.</p>
<p>Still, there is an even more sinister aspect to the Lubavitcher<br />
organization.</p>
<p>Because Lubavitcher outreach offices are located in some of the most<br />
important political, corporate and university centers throughout the<br />
world, the Lubavitchers have put together a network that is<br />
incomparable for corporate and international espionage as well as for<br />
the secret exchange of information. Because Chabad Houses could<br />
potentially act as safe houses, where there would be no record of a<br />
person&#8217;s stay.</p>
<p>Most people do not take the Lubavitchers seriously, but I have visited<br />
Chabad houses and encountered senior Israeli government or military<br />
officials (and probably intelligence agents). One can easily imagine<br />
that Neocon intelligentsia trying to develop a relationship with<br />
Hindutva (?????????) intelligentsia or politicians might have used the<br />
Chabad Nariman House as a meeting place.</p>
<p>Here a Jew is saying that he has visited Chabad houses and that he has<br />
seen covert operations going on and the involvement of senior<br />
Government and military officials of Israel. This Jew writer is also<br />
talking openly about a Neo-Con-Chabad-Hindutva tie-up!</p>
<p>The Jew writer mentions the Mossad involvement in Chabad Houses:</p>
<p>Because the Lubavitchers provide an unconditional welcome to all Jews<br />
in the hope of bringing them closer to the Lubavitcher way of life,<br />
the Lubavitchers have been open to potential subversion by Israeli<br />
intelligence organizations. Mossad and Shin Bet found it quite easy to<br />
penetrate the haredi community during the Yossele Affair. Jewish<br />
politics has often involved infiltration and subversion of one<br />
political group by another. The David Project Israel Advocacy<br />
organization has used its educational programs as a means to<br />
infiltrate more mainstream Jewish communal organizations with radical<br />
Islamophobes and Jabotinskian Zionists.</p>
<p>To Zionize haredi groups that practice outreach, the Israeli<br />
government need only give encouragement to Zionistically indoctrinated<br />
Hebrew-speaking young people to participate in outreach programs, and<br />
in a few years the targeted haredi community is thoroughly enmeshed in<br />
Zionist thinking while Israeli intelligence organizations have a new<br />
crop of saya`nim in place ready to serve in Zionist covert operations.</p>
<p>What is a sayanim? Go to the link</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayanim" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayanim</a> and it states that &#8220;Sayanim<br />
(Hebrew: &#8220;helpers&#8221;) is a term used to describe Jews living outside<br />
Israel who volunteer to provide assistance to the Mossad.[1] This<br />
assistance includes facilitating medical care, money, logistics, and<br />
even overt intelligence gathering, yet sayanim are only paid for their<br />
expenses. No official number is known, but estimates put the number of<br />
sayanim in the thousands. The existence of this large body of<br />
volunteers is one reason why the Mossad operates with fewer case<br />
officers than fellow intelligence agencies&#8221;</p>
<p>Now back to the link</p>
<p><a href="http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2008/12/" rel="nofollow">http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2008/12/</a></p>
<p>chabad-lubavitch-dangerous-game.html</p>
<p>from which I was quoting the Jewish writer originally. He says that<br />
the Lubavitcher shluchim (outreach emissaries) Gavriel Noach and Rivka<br />
Holtzberg fit the `sayanim&#8217; profile to a &#8220;T&#8221; &#8212; especially Rivkah.</p>
<p>So the two people killed in Nariman House fit the Sayanim, that is<br />
Jews outside Israel who volunteer to provide assistance to Mossad,<br />
profile!</p>
<p>NOW WHAT OTHER PROOF DO YOU WANT?</p>
<p>The Jewish writer of the afore-mentioned link himself asks the<br />
question: WOULD MOSSAD HAVE KILLED THE RABBI AND HIS WIFE IN NARIMAN<br />
HOUSE?<br />
AND HE PROVIDES THE ANSWER:</p>
<p>Zionists have always used dead Jews to build sympathy for Zionist<br />
goals and as cover for Zionist crimes against humanity.</p>
<p>Ben-Gurion explicitly stated that he would sacrifice German Jewish<br />
children for the sake of Zionism while the Zionist leadership probably<br />
learned the benefit of sacrificing Zionist operatives from the 1946<br />
Kielce Pogrom. In this incident (Jewish) Soviet and Zionist agents<br />
probably worked together to make sure that surviving Polish Jews chose<br />
emigration to Palestine over a return to Poland.</p>
<p>Because the Kielce Zionist recruiters were killed during the pogrom,<br />
the events leading up to the pogrom was rendered forever unobtainable.</p>
<p>Some reports of the Mumbai attack indicate that the Holtzbergs rented<br />
space to the attack planners over the past few months and thereby<br />
helped make the operation far more effective.</p>
<p>An opportunity to interrogate the Holtzbergs would have helped<br />
investigators immensely.</p>
<p>AGAIN WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?</p>
<p>Another piece of massive evidence: In a telephone interview with CBC<br />
News from outside the Center (Nariman House), freelance journalists<br />
Arun Asthana said that there are reports that some of the militants<br />
had stayed at a guest house there (Nariman House) for upto 15 days<br />
before the attack. &#8220;They had a huge mass of ammunition, arms and food<br />
there&#8221;, Asthana said.</p>
<p>Now other reports have also confirmed that a huge mass of food was<br />
ordered by the residents of the Nariman House. This food was enough<br />
for 30-40 people for several days. Why was this amount of food<br />
ordered? Also why was Nariman House not assaulted till the very last?<br />
A Gujarati Hindu resident of Mumbai came onto TV on CNN-IBN to say at<br />
around 3.30 AM or so, that for two months suspicious activities wree<br />
going in Nariman House. A lot of foreigners were seen coming in and<br />
going out. This matter was reported to the Police. But no one took action.</p>
<p>The CNN-IBN did not repeat the news; then it was only when the common<br />
people of Mumbai threatened to storm the Nariman House the NSG<br />
commandos were moved in&#8211;why this delay in assaulting Nariman House<br />
when only two terrorists were holed in there?</p>
<p>This is sheer official complicity and nothing else&#8211;AN INVESTIGATION<br />
INTO THE WHOLE NARIMAN HOUSE AFFAIR IS A MUST.</p>
<p>Then it was reported that &#8221; somehow surprising to learn that the<br />
terrorists in Cama hospital in Mumbai were fluently speaking Marathi.<br />
The terrorists who are said to have fired in Cama hospital talked to<br />
an employee clad in civil dress in Marathi, reports a Marathi daily<br />
&#8216;Maharashtra Times&#8217;.</p>
<p>The newspaper said the terrorists who targeted ATS chief Hemant<br />
Karkare, police commissioner Ashok Kamte and encounter specialist<br />
Vijay Salaskar were speaking Marathi fluently.</p>
<p>The newspaper claims the terrorists having fired at two watchmen in<br />
uniform asked the other beside them on gunpoint in Marathi, &#8216;You are<br />
here an employee?&#8217; The employee caught the legs of the terrorist and<br />
said, &#8216;I am not working here. My wife has suffered from heart attack<br />
and I have come here to admit her.&#8217; The terrorist asked him again in<br />
Marathi, &#8216;You are speaking true or false?&#8217; The employee answered, &#8216;No,<br />
by God I am speaking true.&#8217;<br />
On this the terrorist let him go.</p>
<p>NOW WHAT DO WE MAKE OF THAT? Another report says that traditional Jews<br />
of Mumbai who have migrated to Israel speak fluent Marathi and are<br />
known to have been recruited by Mossad!</p>
<p>The death of Hemant Karkare remains a mystery. All official versions<br />
are contradictory: some say he was killed near CST, some that he died<br />
near Cama hospital, some near Metro cinema, and some that he was<br />
killed while in a Police jeep. Also, where did the bullet hit him?<br />
Some say on the neck and some near the heart. Karkare was shown on TV<br />
wearing a bullet proof vest&#8211;he could not have been shot in neck in<br />
that case, unless there was a sniper waiting for him.</p>
<p>Also if he was shot near heart, then when did he take out his vest? No<br />
one has even bothered to answer this question. Also, another facet is<br />
coming to light: that Karkare was killed near Cama&#8211;but Kaamte and<br />
Salaskar in the Metro shootout!</p>
<p>Intelligent people&#8211;what do you have to say now? It is becoming<br />
obvious that&#8230;</p>
<p>1. Several terrorists might have been white</p>
<p>2. Were they International mercanaries? If yes, then from which<br />
country? Who collected them? It is well known that Mossad and CIA have<br />
several mercenary organizations, including so-called Jihadi ones on<br />
their list. They create Jihad and manipulate Muslims disaffected by<br />
the Islamophobia in the world. Some of them might have been used in<br />
the Mumbai attack. But why were they carrying American, British,<br />
Mauritian and Malaysian passports?</p>
<p>3. Who were the Marathi speaking Karkare killers? The lane next to the<br />
Cama Hospital is a deserted one&#8211;it goes straight to the backyard of<br />
the Mumbai CID Headquarters. Anonymous sources in the Police have<br />
revealed that Karkare was taken there, by a joint team of<br />
anti-Karkare, pro-Hindutva Mumbai Police officers, and Chota Rajan<br />
men. Now Karkare was opposed to Chota Rajan. Salaskar was anti-Pradeep<br />
Sharma, another Mumbai senior Police officer now in jail, for working<br />
as Rajan&#8217;s shooter. So the Marathi speaking terrorists could either<br />
have been Jews with some connection to Mumbai&#8211;or hired killers of the<br />
Hindutva brigade or men of Chota Rajan.</p>
<p>4. It seems that several things went on simultaneously&#8211;the Mahrashtra<br />
Chief Minister Vilas Rao Deshmukh was in Kerala when the Mumbai attack<br />
began at 9.30 PM on 26th November. Then by 11PM Deshmukh had informed<br />
the Home Minister Shivraj Patil&#8211;the latter has started proceedings to<br />
send the NSG Commandos. So Deshmukh knew about what was happening by<br />
11PM&#8211;then why was there no Mumbai Police on various locations between<br />
9.30 and 1am, the time when Karkare arrived? The Mumbai ATS is a<br />
separate organization. it does not lead the Mumbai Police. So the<br />
40,000 strong Mumbai Police was absent from the scene of action<br />
between 11pm to 1am and then Karkare arrived and he was killed along<br />
with his men!</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t there something fishy here? Obviously the Mumbai Police was kept<br />
deliberately away between 11pm and 1am, the time period when<br />
terrorists were killing people merrily. Then Karkare must have been<br />
told&#8211;and he went there expecting Mumbai police personals to be<br />
there&#8211;but there were none or only a few! And he was killed!</p>
<p>Amaresh Misra is a freelance writer, historian and poet. He is the<br />
author of Mangal Pandey: The True Story of an Indian Revolutionary;<br />
Lucknow: Fire of Grace: The Story of Its Renaissance, Revolution and<br />
the Aftermath, and more recently War of Civilizations: The Road to<br />
Delhi and The Long Revolution. He can be contacted on<br />
<a href="mailto:misra.amaresh@gmail.com">misra.amaresh@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<description>Well what can say? We are an &quot;Ill-informed Nation.&quot;  When i talked to some people today about the current situation in Pakistan they were like &quot; oh everything&#039;s going to be alright .&quot; Now when the entire Indian media and press is resonating with Anti-Pakistan Slogans our people on the other hand are still watching Indian movies , the PCB is acting like a puppy asking BCCI for treats, people like Pervaiz Hoodhboi, have openly said on &quot;Capital Talk&quot; that Pakistan is behind the attacks in Mumbai , that nuclear assets in Pakistan are not safe and that India has never supported terrorism against Pakistan especially the RSS   . No one had the guts to give him a thrashing  the  Pakistani style so what to expect from this country. We have all let down Jinnah who wanted a &quot;Pluralistic Pakistan .&quot;We have tailored the history .We have  disgruntled our best friends. Examples are Iran and China and we are so dumb that we actually think that the &quot;Militants&quot; will save our country. All Party&#039;s Conference was a complete disaster. Instead of going to China our President left for Turkey today. May God give some sense to this country .May God do some miracle to get us out of this situation .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well what can say? We are an &#8220;Ill-informed Nation.&#8221;  When i talked to some people today about the current situation in Pakistan they were like &#8221; oh everything&#8217;s going to be alright .&#8221; Now when the entire Indian media and press is resonating with Anti-Pakistan Slogans our people on the other hand are still watching Indian movies , the PCB is acting like a puppy asking BCCI for treats, people like Pervaiz Hoodhboi, have openly said on &#8220;Capital Talk&#8221; that Pakistan is behind the attacks in Mumbai , that nuclear assets in Pakistan are not safe and that India has never supported terrorism against Pakistan especially the RSS   . No one had the guts to give him a thrashing  the  Pakistani style so what to expect from this country. We have all let down Jinnah who wanted a &#8220;Pluralistic Pakistan .&#8221;We have tailored the history .We have  disgruntled our best friends. Examples are Iran and China and we are so dumb that we actually think that the &#8220;Militants&#8221; will save our country. All Party&#8217;s Conference was a complete disaster. Instead of going to China our President left for Turkey today. May God give some sense to this country .May God do some miracle to get us out of this situation .</p>
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